A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a young, fresh-faced kid launched a podcast for coaches and interviewed a wizard as his first guest. 

Ok, it was less than three years ago.

And it was in Canada.

And that "kid" was hardly "fresh-faced".  He was 36 then ... 

But my first guest on Natural Born Coaches was a wizard of sorts. His name is Hugh Liddle, and he's known as the "sales wizard". 

Since more than 500 episodes of the show have passed since then, I thought it'd be good to get Hugh back for another chat. 

We're both a little older, (hopefully) a little wiser, and more dedicated than ever to helping coaches grasp the whole "selling thing". 

You can listen to the new interview with Hugh here: 

Have a good one,

Marc