I've been following Ryan Michler (Order of Man) for a few years now ... 

Not in a creepy, stalker-ish way, but more of the "how-the-heck-did-he-do-that?" way. 

I'd been hearing his name around a lot because of his Order of Man stuff - he has a huge following (including almost 35,000 members in his Facebook group) and is considered one of the top influencers for men online today. 

I got to know Ryan since he was a contributor in my Group Gold program, and he agreed to come on my podcast to share how he's built up his business. 

That interview just went live, and you can catch it while it's hot here: 

Marc 

PS: Ryan's been through a lot in his journey and he didn't hold back in our chat - if you have 27 minutes to spare today, have a listen!